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Pep Dating Initiative flirts with patriarchy

Published: Thursday, October 29, 2009

Updated: Friday, November 6, 2009 19:11

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As social scientists, we are inherently interested in dating, marriage and family. We are also interested in how social constructs of gender have typically informed these discussions, particularly in Christian settings. Therefore, we were curious about the content of the Pepperdine Dating Initiative, which has dominated the Seaver Convocation series the past two weeks. 

Our curiosity, however, turned to serious concern when one of our students handed us a 3-inch by 4-inch card that included “3 Simple Rules” for dating. 

On this card we learn that the goal of the Pepperdine Dating Initiative is to “help  students form healthy dating relationships” and to create an environment where “guys are comfortable asking and girls are comfortable accepting or declining respectfully.” After the first date, “the guy does not have to call back and the girl should have low expectations.” After the second date, when a discussion about the next step is warranted, “the guy should initiate the discussion.” 

We did not attend the convocation event where this card was distributed and discussed and cannot, therefore, speak to the context in which the card was distributed. We can, however, respond to the content of the card, which we believe communicates a number of troubling messages. 

Do we intend to communicate, for example, that in order for a relationship to be healthy, only males  should initiate dates? Is the appropriate message to send to the young women on our campus that females, and not males, should keep low expectations after that first date? Most troubling, do we really want to tell the young women on our campus that males, but not females, should initiate discussions about future dates? The suggestion that these are the hard and fast “rules” of dating—  that the female should be passive and dependent on the male to both call and to initiate further discussion about the relationship— is indeed troubling.

We fully understand that many males in the Pepperdine community will want to make the phone calls, pay for the date and initiate discussions about future dates. No doubt, there are also many females who will gladly accept this traditional model. 

We feel no compelling need to dissuade either males or females who feel this way. We do take issue, however, with the prescriptive nature of the card. We would argue that there are many other acceptable approaches to dating and, in fact, there is much about this traditional model that is decidedly unhealthy.

The power differences implied by these messages reflect a patriarchal structure that does not always serve relationships well. Patterns in dating relationships often extend into future marital relationships. Would it be considered healthy for a wife to wait for her husband to initiate discussion on all important matters involving their relationship? And if we take these power differentials to their extreme, we must surely recognize the potential for domestic abuse, whereby the male plays the dominant role while the female is passive and subservient in matters financial, emotional and physical. Such relationships are highly dysfunctional and destructive, both to the adults involved in them as well as the children who witness them. 

Having spent several hours last week with two of the people primarily responsible for creating the “3 Simple Rules” card (both of whom happen to be good friends of ours), we understand that it was not their intent to prescribe, or even defend, patriarchal relationships. Their intent was merely to improve dating relationships on our campus. 
Nonetheless, we are troubled that they, as well several others in the Pepperdine community who contributed to the Pepperdine Dating Initiative, apparently missed the clear patriarchal implications of the “3 Simple Rules.” In all honesty, we are more than troubled. We are discouraged. We are discouraged that more leaders within our community have not raised questions about the patriarchal message and the potential repercussions for student development. 

Once upon a time we had a first date, and then a second. And eventually we got married and were blessed with two children—  both a son and a daughter. Our relationship never followed the directives described in the “3 Simple Rules” card, and our marriage looks nothing like the developing relationship described on the card. 

Our marriage is based on an egalitarian model, whereby each of us plays an equal role in the relationship, assuming an equal distribution of power. This is the relationship we have tried to model to our own children and to our students. When we read the directives on the “3 Simple Rules,” however, we fear that the Pepperdine community is endorsing patriarchy, and we are not comfortable with that endorsement.

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Q
Sat Dec 19 2009 17:12
It seems to me that we have a choice between biblical literalism, which tells us that men and women were created with fundamental differences (but not necessarily one superior to the other), or modern biology which tells us that evolution has resulted in the same kind of fundamental differences (but again, we need not conclude that this makes one "better"). Either way, it is obvious that these differences are what give rise to the traditional courtship pattern. This doesn't entail patriarchy, but a recognition of doctrinal or scientific fact that in no way devalues women. Traditional courtship works because men and women are each hard-wired in a way that makes it effective. This says absolutely nothing about a particular gender being "better".
Nick
Thu Nov 5 2009 21:41
@Name. Why don't you leave? I think you would enjoy Bob Jones University or Liberty University. Pepperdine is not a great place for people (like you) who like to condemn individual scientists and entire academic disciplines.

I want to know how the "Boone Center for the Family" can have an objective academic/scientific basis when it admits bias towards: patriarchy, Christianity, heterosexuality, conservativism and marriage? How can the School of Education and Psychology incorporate the Boone Center for the Family and still claim a commitment to diversity or have any credibility in research, scholarship and clinical application.

If Helen Young and her friends want to do faith outreach to students and families, they should do it through the University Church of Christ...not through the School of Education and Psychology. The mission of the Boone Center for the Family is expressly biased against the objective science required in a school of psychology.

Melissa
Thu Nov 5 2009 20:55
"Name," the only one coming off as angry is you. Cindy AND Robin Perrin make very good points. I think all of us with a brain understand they don't object to men taking the initiative to ask a woman out on a date. What they're saying is that Pepperdine should not endorse and teach a model that encourages its female students to just shut up, keep quiet, and wait for something to happen. A healthy relationship is not built on silence and contempt, which is likely all that will come out of a relationship in which a woman feels she has no power to do or say as she desires. "The Rules" may work to help bait a man, but it would be very sad for a woman to betray her feelings, convictions and intuition merely to play a relationship like it's a game. If the "old fashioned" way works for you, fine, but Pepperdine should not be teaching that it's the only healthy way to pursue a relationship with someone.

Yet another step Pepperdine has taken backward! The University loses more credibility every week.

Name
Thu Nov 5 2009 15:59
Professor Perrin, if you don't prescribe to traditional dating and relationships, that's fine. But you cannot condemn them. There are more problems with relationships as you think they should be than with traditional ones. The liberalization of society is leading to the downfall of the family. You, and many sociologists, seem to be contributing to that. Sociology is a science that lacks substance to such a degree that it is more opinion-based than fact-oriented these days; at least as you teach it. I would go so far as to say that sociology is not even a real science. If you don't like traditionalism at Pepperdine, please go somewhere else. We would be better off without you here. You come across as weak, ignorant, and angry and you have no place teaching at Pepperdine.
university
Thu Nov 5 2009 05:26
Going with the flow is great advice. That’s what I’ve done my entire life, and it’s paid off. Going with the flow allows you to extend your highs and get through the lows. You start to take on life and enjoy the ride, instead of riding the emotion of your expectations.
Life is always going to be a roller coaster, but it doesn’t have to be a wooden one – those things are painful!
michael
Fri Oct 30 2009 12:31
I honestly don't usually comment on articles I read in the Graphic. But the Perrins comments really resonated with me, as I and many of my friends had been thinking similar things over the past several months.

The Rules and He's Just not into you are written by lay persons who make inappropriate leaps in their understanding of the psychological and behavior evidence you write about, Skippy. These are not research supported books. There are much better books on relationships. Read some of John Gottman's work, which is based on actual research.

As a senior, I've been sitting back watching these convocations coming from the Center for the Family for the past few years and it's really raised a few questions for me. Who is the Center for the Family? Aren't they part of one graduate school of education and psychology, and if so, why are they so involved in Seaver? Why has Seaver given them such a big platform to push their message?

I've been to some of the other RelationshipIQ talks, and have taken some good points from a few of them, but for the most part I find their message out of touch with the modern day college student. They obviously spend lots of $$ (my tuition money) advertising their programs, developing their website and attempt to spin their programs using catchy marketing. However, I and many of my friends have finally seen through this facade and now see them for what they are... a really conservative Christian organization promoting defined relationship/ gender roles similar to those espoused by those who believe in a literal interpretation of the Bible.

I spent some time looking at their website and they clearly promote a very conservative view of male-female relationships. The Director's overwhelming support for and involvement in the Love and Respect model of relationships makes quite clear that they uphold a very conservative Christian view of marriage, one where patriarchy is supported. I also had a couple of friends attend his talk on understanding men/ women. They were deeply offended by his arrogance and stating some gender differences as "fact" that have no scientific evidence.

I appreciate Pepperdine's interest in talking with students about healthy relationships. However, for a university that has many more female than male students, with students coming from a broad range of Christian perspectives, interested in developing male and female student leaders, shouldn't they consider developing more programming that promotes mutuality and equality, as noted by the Perrins?

To be fair, I also have a few friends who have enjoyed some of the CFF talks. I remember that the Professor Emily Scott-Lowe and her husband used to give some talks on relationships that were more balanced. I couldn't find much mention on the Center for the Family website of their involvement anymore.

Alexander Cooper
Fri Oct 30 2009 01:49
I highly respect and support the Perrins' opinion. I have noticed patriarchal leanings in nearly every relationship-related convocation at Pepperdine. It perturbs me that, even in a liberal arts setting, this theme recurs in so many University-sponsored messages. That the male should have the final word in any relationship, solely by virtue of his being male, is an inherently problematic assertion, and it is a view which should be much more carefully examined before gaining the endorsement of the University.
skippy
Fri Oct 30 2009 01:07
Cindy and Robin, I appreciate your appeal for equality of the sexes in dating. I am a man who strongly supports the liberation of women and sexual equality.

However, the idea that men should "generally" initiate dates is NOT a reflection of the power and value of women in a relationship. Women are still welcome to initiate dates and many health marriages have resulted from women being proactive.

The "general advice" that women should expect men to be the pursuer (articulated in well received books like "The Rules" and "He's Just Not That Into You") is based on psychological and behavioral evidence that men are adaptively hardwired to take the lead and relentlessly pursue women that they want. Unfortunately, women often find themselves in fantasy relationships with men who are just not interested. I think the "rules" and the card are somewhat designed to teach young people that, even in modern age of equality, men are expected to pursue (no shame in asking) and women should seriously question the interest level of a man that isn't pursuing her (he's not that into you). So, I don't think the Dating Initiative was misogynistic or oppressive to women. And I don't think the rule of "men initiating dates" implies a power difference between the sexes. It merely acknowledges a difference between the sexes in sociobiology and innate courtship behavior.

Personally, I only pursue women that I am interested in. Also, I have found that once mutual interest is established in a relationship, women are generally very effective at asserting (at minimum) their equal share of power .

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